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either because they are frustrated or because they want to get more training or education. some people are finding jobs. economists have looked at different calculations of which is the better factor -- the bigger factor, or people dropping out or getting more education and training and my understanding is that there are equal roles being played by each for spirit -- each force. but there are definitely some dropping out. some of that is the baby boom generation starting to retire. it may not be a "dropping out," but people choosing to retire and leave their jobs. some older people may have lost their jobs and cannot find new ones and are taking early social security benefits. there is some of that. host: mr. r doane, the labor force participation -- mr. nardone, a labor force position rick, please explain this. guest: the take the people who are employed in those who are unemployed and combine them and you get what is called the labour force. divide that by the population in at 16 and over and you're of the force participation rate. is the proportion of the population that is either e
with him. >> i do not know of any government program that john is supporting. not early education. the reason no child was left behind is the money is left behind. with regard to the role of vice president, i had a long talk, as a sure the governor did, with her principal, with a rock. i have a history of getting things done in the united states senate. -- with barack. i have a history of getting things done in united states senate, as john mccain nos. i would be the point person on getting things done. when asked if i wanted a portfolio, my response was no, but for rock obama indicated he wanted me with him to help him govern, so every decision he makes, i will be sitting with him in the room to give him advice -- but for rock -- but barack obama indicated he wanted me in the room to help him govern. i look forward to working with barack and playing a very constructive role in his presidency, bringing about the kind of change this country needs. >> from 2008, in st. louis, the vice presidential debate, robert watson, let me pick up on something we discussed earlier, which is how
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